The Cornell Lab Bird Academy › Discussion Groups › Anything but Common: The Hidden Life of the American Crow › Crow Research Techniques
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Eye color changing in birds fascinates me. WHY do their eyes change color? WHEN do their eyes change color? is there some purpose for eyes being difference colors?
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For crows the eye color is a cue for the recognition of juvenile status. The blue eyes show that they are babies. The blue eyes change to their adult color within a month or two after they fledge (leave the nest). The pink inside out the mouth is another visual cue for crows to recognize that the crow is a young crow. The pink inside of the mouth can last up to two years.
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Sounds like another good advanced degree research project!
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What it takes to be an ornithologist. I just can't imagine myself climbing such tall trees and bringing down chicks and then climbing back up to put them back. I like watching crows and wish the ones around me were banded so I could tell if I see the same one repeatedly. I've seen crows do so many interesting things.
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I'm still mulling over the fact that the only truly reliable way of determining the sex of a crow is blood analysis. I have been attempting to guess males( by what seemed to me to be useful) that in a pair one seems to have a slightly larger head due to more or ruffled feathers. Is this at all reliable?
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The size difference between male and female is so slight that even the crow experts don't always guess the sex correctly just by visual characteristics. Size can be deceptive and feathers can be fluffed up or smoothed down variably by a bird. So the only reliable way to sex crows is by DNA. Thanks for asking about this.
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Definitely the wing tags for distance ID! And I was interested to know how long the crows live.
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Most interesting -- the wing tags for distance identification! So curious as to how these were developed, made, coded, attached. Would love to learn more.
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What was most interesting to me is the focus on individuals, and the ability to stay with an individual bird through its life. To me, this brings understanding of the species to a whole new level - beyond the abstraction of “crow” to a specific, concrete, real life. To our untrained eyes, individual birds of a species look identical. We can’t sort out sibling relationships or even mates outside the breeding season. How much richer to know this crow is 17 years old, the brother of this bird and the mate of that one! How much more connected we become to a fellow creature when we are able to see it as a unique individual.
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I agree; well said!
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@Chris Yes, so true!
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We see our pet birds and other pets as individuals, so why not view crows and other wild animals the same way?
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I was very happy (and surprised) to hear about the crows that had been tagged and observed for so long. I think it’s wonderful that the people working on the crow research are able to track family relationships. I really wish I could do this with the crows I feed, but unless one crow has some unusual feature or personality tic, I have a hard time telling the ones in my yard apart. I also was surprised and very charmed by the elderly crow’s white face feathers. In the picture he looks dignified and wise. I hope the younger crows are taking his advice.
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Interesting the number of tags used. Did not realiza this.
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I was a little surprised at how tolerant the crows seemed to be with the researchers. In my own personal study, I'd read accounts of crows remembering for years the faces of researchers and reacting adversely to their presence. Perhaps I was just misinterpreting what I saw in the lesson in that regard. And I was pleasantly surprised at how long the crows lived. I'm definitely in the love crows category, and I hope this work helps to improve the lives of crows everywhere.
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I was surprised that they were able to take track of individual crows for up to two decades, that they understood the family ties between crows and that they could find family members still flocking together (such as sisters two years apart).
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I am very surprised at how long they live and at their changing eye color.
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I was also surprised at how long they can live and that you can still recognize them when they have lost all their Id tags. I also wonder if the wing tags are annoying. I was also wondering when researchers would start using some kind of broadcasting tag since miniaturization has gotten so good. And I was wondering what kind of camera the researchers have that can now catch birds on the fly.
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The idea of using a smaller digital device on the crows seems like a better idea than the unwieldly big tags; then the crows could be identified from longer distances, and perhaps more accurately.
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I was surprised to learn how long crows can live.
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I was surprised that some can live so long that their leg bands fall or wear off.
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