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Bird AcademyBird AcademyAre you confident in your ability to distinguish crows from ravens - and other “blackbirds”? If so, do you have additional id tips that you use? If not, what is still confusing you?You must be enrolled in the course to reply to this topic.
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Now I am fairly confident, course was really good. I wished it had been longer actually. The photography was excellent and presenter was very professional. I liked learning about the research and tagging of the individual birds.
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I’m fairly confident.
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The distinction between ravens and American crows can be tricky especially in images where it's hard to get a notion of relative size. On a related topic: in the introduction to the course you ask why people might like/dislike crows. Part of my apprehension and interest is related to the frequently negative image of crows in popular culture -- in films, for instance, they are sometimes portrayed as frightening, menacing or related to grief and death. This, and the fact that they are such intelligent animals, capable of making tools and impressive communication. It's an intriguing contrast!
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My thoughts exactly! I was amazed at how smart they are and the fact that they are not the main group of "bad guys' after our song birds.
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Yes, I am gaining more confidence in distinguishing crows from other "blackbirds" as I have noticed that crows have brown scleras whereas Grackles have yellow scleras. Moreover, I can distinguish the crows from ravens by how noticing the differences between their beaks and their wings and tail. Ravens tend to have more arched beaks and more pointy wings and tails compared to crows.
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Quite confident! Other helpful distinctions for me: crows typically have very dark eyes while lookalikes often have bright yellow eyes. For grackles specifically, if you see them in real like they are often VERY iridescent, it's quite striking. Crows can be iridescent too, but for me grackles are much more noticeably so.
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I'm fairly confident. Other clues that can be used is whether you are in the range of the look alike bird.
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nothing to add
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Thanks to this course I at least have a few "markers"to look for - very helpful! I live on the edge of a wooded park so sitting on my porch I usually hear them before I see them. The course hasn't touched on it (yst?), but their calls are very different to my ear.
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I do feel very confident with crows vs blackbirds. We don't typically get grackles here so that helps. Over the last year or two I've been practicing distinguishing crows from ravens and have gotten so much more confident in that, but still have trouble occasionally if there's just one bird sitting by itself at a bad angle. The differences I've noticed over time were confirmed by this course which was fun!
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I am mostly proficient, but from some angles, it is a little tricky. All of these birds appear very different from the crow, except the raven, which we have already covered. For the other birds, you can see eye color, tail, beak shape, build, etc. I think it helps me more to think of the crow’s tail shape as a wedge because in some shots the raven tail looks more round to me than diamond. Also, I realize that from certain angles, a crow’s neck feathers, tail, and beak can be a little bit ambiguous, so all of these in combination are worth looking at.
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To remember the different tail shape of crow versus raven, the word 'raven' has a 'v'!
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Yes! Very confident in identifying crows.
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I feel pretty confidiant in ideniflying a crow from other birds. Though it seems hard sometines, somthing that is helpful for me is looking at the beak and distiugishing it that way.
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I believe I am somewhat confident identifying crows from other birds, but it can be a little tricky to distinguish crows from other birds when they are flying. I would say that eye color is very important, because you can easily tell if a bird is a crow or a grackle based on their eye color.
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when it is flying it us very tricky, but I learned a lot from this course to be able to identify them when still.
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I am fairly confident in my ability, this has already helped me so much in identification! Eye color and beaks are the ones I notice the most difference in. The beaks seem to be longer and fuller than most other "blackbirds"
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In flight is still tricky, but I learned a lot from this course.
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I learned a lot! Thank you.
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Tail feathers are confusing me in distinguishing crows from other black birds.
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I am confident in my ability to distinguish crows, but I have a hard time when they are in flight. I find it hard to tell the difference in tail shapes between ravens and crows.
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Hi Lindsey,
Me too! I find the other black birds easier to differentiate between Crows than Ravens when they are in flight. The tail feathers are difficult to tell at times. Weirdly enough, sometimes when I look at the two photos, it is easier without just focusing on the feathers, but when I am in the wild I find it easier to focus on tail feathers.
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I feel fairly confident in identifying Crows from other blackbirds. I am not as confident when they are in flight unless I can truly tell their size.
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Yes I am confident that I can distinguish between crows and other similar songbirds. Eye color can be an indicator as well as colored feathers.
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I feel confident in my ability to tell crows from other blackbirds, but not crows from ravens, especially at a distance with nothing to reference size. More practice required.
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raven wings are longer and thinner than crow wings.
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