I live in the sliver of NC that has both American Crows and Ravens year round and on Facebook wildlife appreciation groups here you can almost always find an ongoing discussion about a rather a picture is of a crow or raven (or beaver and groundhog but alas)… this lesson was extremely helpful to me as I always harbored a little sliver of doubt myself.  If I am applying what I learned correctly, my  yard harbors the American Crow.

1. The crow will harm songbird nestlings, but your biggest culprit is snakes in the South, and where you don't have many snakes, you need to be more concerned about squirrels and chipmunks. A crow will bother a songbird nest a little more than a deer.

We have a pair of crows that live on our street.  I was so upset and yet impressed last summer as one crow taunted a mother bunny far enough away from her nest so that the other could snatch one of her baby bunnies and fly off (traumatic moment as the mother bunny actually screamed and thumped her feet).  The crow's teamwork was impressive.  I was so mad at them at first until later I saw the pair had a young crow of their own; everyone has to eat and we certainly have enough bunnies around here!

1- actually squirrels and snakes eat more bird eggs than crows.

1.  I would show the neighbor the pie chart and share the fact that chipmunks, squirrels and snakes eat more eggs from nests than the crow does. 4.  All birds benefit from the crow due to the fact that they alarm all birds and many animals of predator dangers.

Crows are omnivorous, but the major consumers of baby  birds are squirrels, chipmunks and snakes.  Squirrels and chipmunks spend as much time in trees as on the ground and eat whatever they find in the trees, including baby birds, that will provide the nutrients they need to survive and reproduce.  Crows do, on occasion, eat baby birds, but they have a wide variety of food sources. There is a crow's nest high in the pine across the street--and another around the corner in a neighbor's yard.  There is a small group of crows here that congregate on the local water tower, in the tallest trees and on our roofs.  They seem to have places that they go during the day--unless there is something of concern like a hawk or other danger that causes them to rally and sound the alarm that danger is near. I live in northwestern Oregon and have not encountered ravens here.  I love their gutteral calls and am always amazed at their size in comparison to crows. The songbirds at my feeder probably appreciate the crows calling to warn of predators.  Mice, rats, moles and voles in my yard also appreciate an early warning that a predator is near.

Crows do eat baby birds occasionally, but they are not the main predators to them. Snakes and squirrels are far more common predators to baby birds, and crows are on par with white-tailed deer, which are usually thought of as herbivores. Predation is a natural part of the ecosystem, and crows should not be demonized for it when they aren’t even main predators to baby birds. Crows also benefit the ecosystem by eating invasive pests such as Japanese beetles. I was very surprised to learn that there are no ravens at all in my state, and the last sighting of one was in 2007. However, I see American crows frequently. I have even seen them at my high school!

1. Songbird baby predation is mostly from snakes and squirrels including chipmunks.  Crows actually account for very few baby bird deaths. 2. I have a band of crows living near our large front yard, however I have not been able to find their nest yet. 3. I live in an area that only has crows, no ravens.  But if I saw them side by side I could distinguish them apart. 4. Crows alert the neighborhood of predators,  they eat nice and insect pest, they distribute seeds.

1. Songbirds have many predators that are far more aggressive in killing songbird nestlings. For example, chipmunks, squirrels and snakes are the most aggressive in raiding songbird nests for baby birds. Crow, do eat baby birds, but there are many predators after chipmunks, etc. to nestlings that are far more destructive including insects and cowbirds. 2. In my part of the country (CT, U.S.), crows are regulars at the shoreline. However, they do sometimes come to my backyard feeder and several times have been seen near the fast food corridor in my town. I have never seen a crow's nest. 3. Only occasionally will I see a raven in the area. They are sometimes seen at the shoreline. I have never seen a raven inland in CT. When travelling to Maine, there is a greater opportunity to see ravens. Ravens always seem much bigger and huskier than crows. They are always a surprise when I see them. One other place I have seen ravens is out west at one of the national parks sitting on a brick barrier/fence post. His behavior was extremely calm and allowed a lot of photos to be taken of him. My guess is that he has had lots of experience with tourists. Crows, when I see them - they are always with other crows. 4. Since they warn others of predators any of the smaller birds and mammals (such as chipmunks and squirrels) are warned in advance. My interest in crows and birds in general came from seeing this behavior in crows. I was watching a ring-necked pheasant in a field when a hawk landed nearby. Within a short time two crows also arrived and started cawing; then attacking/flying close to the hawk to scare him off. I do not know if the hawk was really after the pheasant, but it was a field, it could have been mice or something else. What I do know is that the hawk left because of the crows and did not take anything with him.

About crow predation: Yes, I've seen a crow steal and eat a baby robin, with two very distressed parents dive-bombing and watching the event.  It broke my heart, and for a time I was no longer a fan of crows. In my utopian fantasy world, nothing would be eaten by anything else.  But the fact is, that's the food chain that keeps this world alive, gruesome though it may be at times. The flip side is, crows are neighborhood guard dogs, chasing other predators away so that other birds and small animals can survive another day. And they do it with gusto and panache. Besides, now that I've learned that chipmunks and squirrels, whom I also adore, are serious nest predators, how can I hold it against crows?

I was surprised to learn that chipmunks and squirrels were the main predators of baby birds. I would point that out to anyone that says crows are the culprits. I think I have seen both ravens and crows in NYS. Mostly, it’s crows. I do hear them warn the animals whenever someone is in the area. I think I can identify them better now. 

In regards to #1, I would point out that snakes and squirrels are the biggest danger to songbird nestlings than crows. To answer #2, I go back to the 60's  after graduating from high school. I went rabbit hunting with a friend in east central Missouri. We were walking through a large field with forest on either side of it. We saw two crows heading for us and then veer around us just out side of shotgun range. I always thought that was amazing and have since then always considered crows intelligent.

I live in Atlantic Canada, and we have both crows and ravens, although the ravens are less obvious. Tons of crows in all kinds of habitat: on the seashore, in built-up areas, parks, feeders. We also have squirrels, chipmunks, and raccoons -- all "cute" until you learn they are heavy predators of nestlings. I have crows all day long at my feeder area so I love observing their interactions among themselves as well as with me and my small dog. They have figured us out! They pick up bread chunks and fly to my house to dunk in the birdbath that is near my feeders. I've seen a parent bird do that, then feed the soggy bread to a juvenile with an injured leg that could bear no weight. I believe that was extra feeding she wouldn't have had to do if it was healthy, but its leg healed in the end and it could forage for itself. The two most important things I learned from this first lesson is how to differentiate between crows and ravens, and that crows are by far the least responsible for nest predation.

if a neighbor were complaining about crows killing baby birds I would tell him that the biggest killers of baby songbirds are small mammals like cute chipmunks and squirrels and snakes. Songbirds and small mammals may benefit from crows since crows are good warning systems for predators..

I live in Alaska. We have a lot of crows but,  I think many more ravens. This may come out in later sessions but the ravens here mimic an incredible variety of sounds, mimicking it seems not only other birds but other animals.  But with respect to the current lesson, is there any data on nest predation by cats (feral or domestic).  I thought that domestic cats roaming outside were an issue with bird predation in general.

I have 4- 6 crows that come to my backyard at least 3 or 4 times a week. They are a group who hang around together and its obvious that they're friends. they tend to feed on seeds that the songbirds throw down when they are feeding on my bird feeder. I love watching them fly and congregate together in the trees or on my front lawn looking for insects. I enjoy hearing the different calls they make. I wish I knew what their different calls mean. It looks like I live in an area (New Hampshire) where there are both crows and ravens but I've never seen a raven here.

- I would share with my neighbors the small percentage of next robberies due to Crows. -I live in Western NY and have seen both Ravens and Crows. I witnessed Crows this summer going "crazy" over the arrival of a large hawk in our wooded backyard. They certainly let the entire neighborhood know there was a predator nearby. -I'll be on the lookout for a nest!

I would tell the person complaining about crows killing nestlings that squirrels do kill a much higher number but regardless of the numbers the crows are just doing what crows naturally do, just as any other animal does.  Then I would agree with them that it was still sad.

I live in the Pacific NW now but previously lived on the east coast where crows were prevalent but no ravens. Out here it has been interesting to see the differences between the 2 species, particularly that ravens seem more solitary and crows are often together in small groups or large flocks. I live near the University of Washington Bothell campus which is next to a large wetland and there is a flock of ~10,000 crows that gather there in the winter.  Before moving out here had never seen anything like it and it's pretty cool at dusk to see the crows gathering from all directions as they make their way to the site....and yes, it can get pretty loud at times! Have also often seen them mobbing hawks and eagles so they are definitely warning other animals and songbirds of their presence.

Alarms when predators near. Provides food for larger animals. Leaves behind nests for owls.

I'm a migratory person - that is I travel the country and work as a volunteer camp or park host.  I'm currently at a park in the Pacific Northwest where we have tons of crows and I love them for many reasons.  For one, they're entertaining - they go from campsite to campsite to see if any campers have left anything interesting behind.  Secondly and maybe my favorite - they help me keep the campsites clean!  You go it - any little small tasty morsels left around are quickly cleaned up by the crows so they make my job a whole heck of a lot easier.  I also appreciate that they help keep the small rodents at bay.   The last thing we want is the mice scaring campers away!  Lastly during the week when the campground is quiet I still have the crows to keep me company!

I live where both ravens and crows reside. It’s so easy to here the throaty raven call even before seeing them. Our ravens live in the bush around a small, local lake and don’t come out into crow territory until the crows are gathering to leave for the winter.   I watched a sharp-shinned hawk sitting in a tree behind our house. They are amazing hunters, more like fighter jets isolating a bird from its flock for prey. I have noticed that the crows and magpies try to intimidate it and chase it out of the tree. Having such clever, strong birds in the neighborhood helps protects the songbirds.

I live in the mid Atlantic region and I see crows in lawns and parking lots. Now I know that I'm less likely to see a raven as they don't commonly live in my region year round. (but I will still try to id a murder of crows the next time I see one. Crows likely help other predatory birds find prey as they travel in groups or murders so the other birds know where to look for food.

Crows statistically eat many fewer bird's eggs than snakes and squirrels and other small mammals so don't be so quick to blame the crows!

I'd point out that it's interesting, data shows that squirrels and snakes actually eat more than 10 times the amount of baby birds as crows, and that of all baby bird predators, crows and deer are the least likely to eat baby birds.